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Post by Lil' Ragnaros on Aug 21, 2011 19:34:47 GMT -5
Cause you still have all the abilities of a wyrmling dragon which Wizard's deem is worth 4 levels. You'd have 3 Hit dice and paid 2 levels of LA off yet still have 4 LA of stuff.
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Post by pushaw on Aug 21, 2011 19:41:51 GMT -5
Actually, Having 1 HD and everything the dragon has would make things so much easier. I can do that?
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Post by Lil' Ragnaros on Aug 21, 2011 19:49:04 GMT -5
Yes. As long as you don't mind the 1 HD and such. You end up with levels 2-10 being nothing but HD and level 11 being another LA to pay off. 12-14 more HD and 15 LA. On every LA level, you advance to the next age category so long as you have the minimum HD of that age category nor equal to or more than the minimum of the next. Simple enough such that you would not need a level progression chart. I lied, you'd go up to 10 HD b4 you'd have to pay another LA... Wrong dragon
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Post by pushaw on Aug 21, 2011 19:54:21 GMT -5
I just gotta make sure I don`t die for a while.
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Post by pushaw on Aug 21, 2011 19:55:31 GMT -5
sounds great, I`ll do that.
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Post by Lil' Ragnaros on Aug 21, 2011 19:56:48 GMT -5
Well hopefully the +10 to hide, the ability to blind people, the ability to fly to keep out of reach, and while I shouldn't be giving you this idea, the ability to cut through walls to hit people should keep you alive... Like the description says, you basically a rogue.
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Post by pushaw on Aug 21, 2011 20:04:58 GMT -5
Ya, though I only intend on using the +10 hide for scouting seeing as how it only applies to when I`m airborn at night. And I found a feat tree to get around the whole blinding the party thing, though I have to take 2 pretty Irelevant feats to get it. I`m still not sure if I`m going to orient around the blinding, or flyby attack. Possibly Strafing Breath, though the 1 HD would limit my feats.
You`re allowing 2 flaws as usual, right?
Edit: I`ll go ahead and assume so seeing as how you didn`t mention it, and you normally do allow it.
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Post by loneshadow on Aug 21, 2011 21:12:35 GMT -5
well then were to meet Friday at 2 then?
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Post by Lil' Ragnaros on Aug 21, 2011 21:49:01 GMT -5
How about Friday at 12 at the college unless You, Jay or Skreyola can't make it. I am assuming you are also posting on Jay's behalf.
First sessions tend to take a little longer so if you guys wanna get something done rather than the intro session... The intro session has ran between 3-15 hours in the past depending on the group and how much interaction with the NPCS and how much detail I went through.
I also would like to know who's playing what and what your life's goal is and what the 9-5 job would be before then. 9-5 doesn't actually mean 9-5, rather just some skill, or labor you can provide on a regular basis.
For starting gold, Each team will get 9,000. If you are playing a spell caster, have a separate sheet of paper for Spellbook/spell prepared/spells known.
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Post by skreyola on Aug 21, 2011 21:50:50 GMT -5
I think you need to ask clarifying questions to make sure you understand what's being asked before you go off on a tear or lecture someone. Because you're really bad about guessing what we're asking, and there's no excuse for not clarifying. Just guessing and assuming you know BOTH what we're thinking and what we're asking, when past history has shown you don't know either, just frustrates us. PHB pg44: "a paladin will never knowingly associate with evil characters," and chromatic dragons are, according to the MM, always evil, so instead of lecturing me on how alignment works or doesn't work in your world (funny how you insist on following the mechanics exactly in every detail EXCEPT alignment), your answer should have been: a) No, paladins won't party with chromatic dragons, b) Don't worry about the alignments listed in the MM; if the dragon is not evil, paladins will work with them, or c) Yes, because in my campaign, paladins can be whatever they want, and so can dragons.
Regarding dragon levels, I wasn't talking about this garbage about comparing what stats and stuff we get. I haven't even seriously considered taking a characters class. I was saying that if you make us pay off the initial LA in addition to all the other LAs we'll reach as we progress through the chart (and I like the chart in the DN fine, so please don't change the rules now and say we have to buy HD and LA in a certain order starting out), the humanoid characters will go through their progressions a lot faster, reaching level 20 quite possibly before the dragon PCs can carry them as riders. How is this going to work? The humanoid PCs will be epic level before the dragons can pay off the HD and LA to reach the powers I'd hope to reach in the campaign.
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Post by skreyola on Aug 21, 2011 21:57:27 GMT -5
I can meet at noon, but Whataburger works better for me, if not Wendy's. I'm really not comfortable meeting at the college.
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Post by loneshadow on Aug 21, 2011 22:12:46 GMT -5
well I would be fine meeting at noon but my sister may be face painting on Friday *unsure if she is or isn't* if she is she will want it to be meeting at 2 if she isn't then noon would be alright for her also my current character status: I've rolled up 2 characters 1 anthropomorphic snake with 1 lvl in monk and 2 lvl's in rouge +2 monster hit dice and 1 anthropomorphic bat with 5 lvl monk and specializing in disabling enemies for 1 turn via attack
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Post by pushaw on Aug 21, 2011 22:15:04 GMT -5
I agree that you shouldn`t change the progression builds on my account, especially sense actually building a progression takes alot of time and thought (Unless you just so happen to be noob)
And I`m also currious about the alignment thing, am I hatched as the assigned alignment, or can I start out with a different alignment?
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Post by Lil' Ragnaros on Aug 22, 2011 9:40:03 GMT -5
Maybe I am not understanding your question correctly. What part of this alignment thing wouldn't constitute for a paladin to partner with a green dragon? So what you are saying is instead of assuming what you guys are thinking and acting on that, I should clarify with questions... *sarcasm* If a team wants to use their dragon as a mount they will have to work towards it. If 1 person wants to play a wizard and the other a tiny dragon, it obviously wouldn't work. If 1 person plays a small or tiny character, then just about any dragon can work as a mount starting off. If the dragon starts off at medium sized, between level 10-15 is when they will get large sized. This is a choice, there is no requirement. Let me try to rephrase the alignment thing... Alignments DO matter. Go ahead with what it says in the MM. Be aware of how "Always Evil" is defined in the MM. You'll find it in the glossary and near the beginning where it explains what each line under each monster entry means. After you do that, go back and see if the other 2 ways I said to treat alignment make any sense, If not, I'll try a fourth way. The level progression chart in Dragon Magazine 332 & 320 makes leveling up a breeze for newer players who are only familiar with the class progression charts. If you use the Savage Species way, it suggests that you build one. Alternatively, UA offers the ability to pay off level adjustments. I'm allowing you to do any of the 3. I find the "Pay off LA then advance each HD" the most time efficient. It does require the most finger work because you'll be looking up what 1 aberration HD gives your character.
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Post by loneshadow on Aug 22, 2011 11:20:28 GMT -5
now if I am allowed my two sense on the manner from playing in multiple of noob's dragon campaigns regardless of weather your dragon has an alignment saying almost always lawful,evil, or whatever seeing as the dragon is not going to be raised by other dragons of it's own type the alignment could be anything if that isn't what you were all talking about then I guess this hasn't helped
as for my third character it will be a regular anthro bat 1lvl monk 4lvl druid working tword the Planer Shepherd prestige class in the Faiths of Eberron Campaign settings book pg 106/107
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